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When looking through Victor Johnson's book, I noticed a line-up of fly reels on page 107. The smallest was the Fenwick World Class 1, made for 3-5 wt.
line. Anybody have one and care to tell me about its ability to function? Specs.? Anyone care to post pictures of it? I am going to post a want-ad in the
classifieds section in case you are looking to sell. Thanks.
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Hi well there my have been more than one version available. I have two different versions and I think they were listed as being for line weights 2-3-4wt as the
smallest size. The first one I have was made in Germany, came boxed with instructions and tool and in a neat fitted leather case. The second model I will call
it is of the same size, same line weight and approximate weight, this one was made in Korea, came boxed with instructions, and a foam case. I think I have two
of each put away somewhere here, NIB I will look for them later this afternoon and follow up with pictures and such.
As I remember it the earlier German made version sold for I believe $230 and the later Korean made version was somewhere between $50-$75. Both are extremely well made little lightweight reels. Richard |
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Here is a picture of the USA made Class 2 which is the same as the class 1 but a little larger. The class 4, 6, and 8 were all disk drag and most were
antireverse. My pictures are not great but it is a high gloss light gold color but I have seen them in black and a yellow color. It is a very nice reel that
can have a pretty stiff setting on the pawl.
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Looks like there were or are at least 4 World Class reel series then. I suspect yours (Riffling Hitch) is the first Series, the German was the Second series,
the Korean the third, and I found a fourth World Class, looks alot like a Hardy Clone, from China, that came even later, found I had one of those for bigger
rods like 7/8wts. Its been stormy today so I will try and post pictures of the three different series I have myself. Like most larger companies apperently they
we outside to have a line of reels available to match or closely match their rods.
Richard |
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Sorry it took so long to get back on this topic, had the sons family up for a week and fishing has been outstanding so it took me quite a while to find these
reels, they have been packed away for at least the first two for nearly 10 years, the last is a recent one I picked up though.
Ok the first one a Fenwick 2000 World Class, made in Germany, rated a 3/4wt however if you look at the spec's for this large arbor reel its actually best suited for a 2 or 3wt rod.
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native |
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flyfishing4goldentrout,
thanks for the extensive post on the fenwick reels. Back when I posted my original message, I had no idea they had collectible value. The appear to be in
great condition and are probably part of a great collection. Since posting I picked up a Martin 60 that will work just fine for the purpose of this post.
Thanks.
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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No problem, one thing about our forum, once we post information someone is always using the search engine to find out information so having these models all
out here will prove of interest and benifit for another member down the road. Yes the two smaller reels are NOS mint, still in the boxes, the larger is used
excellent condition.
Richard |
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16 pmd |
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I think Riffling Hitch has the model that the Victor Johnson book refers to. They were, in my opinion, good but fairly ordinary, click-and-pawl reels that
never gathered a very big following. I guess their lack of widespread following and thus small number of reels made could make them collectibles now, but I
don't think there is anything all that special about the way they were made. The Class 4 and higher with disk drags, though also not all that popular, had
a good and distinctive drag system them and were quite well made.
The later Fenwick reels were, in my opinion, even more ordinary and less popular. To me they represent the change in Fenwick from a leading edge company in glass and early graphite rods to a sort of mass market copycat company that tried to sell lackluster products in big volume through the Walmarts of this world. |
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Well the late 70s and into the 80s was the death of alot of American made rods and reels, we simply couldn't compete price wise with what the Koreans and
Japanese were producing. Large volume companies like Conolon, Fenwick and Silaflex just closed up the shop and went overseas like everybody else. The Koreans
and Japanese fell into the same position as soon as the Chinese began making quality tackle for less.
I can remember buying a couple of closeout Fenwick Techna AV fly rods around 2000 as well, from Korea I believe, very high tech stuff, but hay, what did it cost them to make them. Sure they are lifetime garanteed, but for a rod that when it was introduced costing nearly $900 and later to fall to less than $600, how much did it actually cost to produce in Korea and ship to America. Like I say I picked up a couple at the closeout fished them too, good rods, but and frankly not better than anybody elses premium rod at the time. I have a couple of made in America "best quality" Fly Logic rods that are very close in looks that cast just as well for less than half the cost of those high priced import Fenwicks even at the deeply discounted closeout prices. Same holds true for Fly Logics "Best Quality" fly reels, made in Idaho, they are as good as anything Orvis is bringing in from where ever and most of the rest with IMHO the exception of Hardy. They seem to have been able to relate to their Korean Factory people that copying their premium reels means they have to be identical in every way to the English made ones. There is nothing wrong with tackle being made overseas at a lower cost as long as the quality is there, IMHO, one of my all time favorite Reels is the Japanese made Marryat. I would say, with much of the high end stuff that Fenwick has been bringing in, its overpriced, definately not Walmart material, but not worth the premium prices they were asking either. The German made reel was way over designed, could have been made for alot less Im sure. The Korean assembled reel could have been a winner but was just late in the offering. The last one, is definately not bad but again priced out of the Walmart range, more into the "Big Five Sporting Goods" type operations. As such its not exactly a collectable or anything to get excited about. Might be in 30 or 40 years though when its discovered again. Richard |
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