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Hello
Very well said !
Your comments on how to approach rod building as an assembly process are spot on as well.
Tight Lines and Stay Ever Passionate Loops.
Andy M

Hello
Thanks P and you know you have said a mouthful if I were to form a list of people willing to help people your name would be at the top.
I really enjoy your posts and they are very informative really good honest stuff full of passion and a willingness to help others.

You and I have butted heads in the past and from that head butting you and I both went away with a better understanding of the craft.
Also from those situations we grew to have a deep respect for one another.

I agree that our site has more valuable information than many other sites that are dedicated to rod building that is a fact plain and simple.

If you go back and read all the post it is truly amazing the stuff that has been covered here and the passion we have all shared.

People contact me all the time people that have never posted on site and they ask questions or thank me for opening up new concepts for them to embrace.
Not to rekindle an old fire but I am amazed how many people have contacted me about Spine and have started to work from the spine as a result of my comments in one of the most controversial threads this site ever saw.
And I am proud to have been so passionate about my position on Spine.

I have very little more to offer it's your turn,others turn to keep the passion alive moving forward, besides I have done my duty now it's time for me to do for myself as Whirlpool says and for others too hopefully pick up where I leave off.

Like I said I am not going away completely, I am just moving to the back row,you can contact me anytime you wish that has not changed.

So what do you say we get this thread back on track Pearow please share more about your butt extension project I would really like to hear more.

Tight Lines and System 10 Loops
Andy M

Hello P
Well there are more than one way to skin a cat and a fiberglass ferrule inserted into the butt through the reel seat is defiantly an option.
One thing that must be considered is dirt getting in and compromising the ferrule fit in either case.

I shared here what works best for me but like I say it may not be the preferred method.

The problem I have encountered in the past with fiberglass or graphite inserted butt extensions is they have a tendency to crack either at the female outer edge or the male section cracks from being improperly seated or dirt has been the culprit.

They are not simple fighting butts and receive tremendous stress during the casting stroke.

I agree that the best case is to just either make them dedicated by putting both handles/grips on the blank or to add a dedicated fixed extension by adding the extension to the butt of the blank and then put the rear grip over the union and forget about it.

In this case Joe wanted the option to remove the extension so this was my best solution.

I suspect the threaded rod was too rigid and something had to give so the reel seat bond was the victim.

You know the super large ferrule you see on the old boat rod handles they fit into the reel seat but I never saw one that did not have problems either loose of so tight you couldn't get them off.

Loose is the real problem and most guys just glue them in permanently, I suspect that is what happens to many switch rods over time as well
people just glue the extensions in permanently when they fail or they just toss the extension one or the other.

But that is of little help to us rod makers trying to prevent them from failing period.

I hope what ever you decide you will post your solution here.

Tight Lines and Extended Loops.
Andy M