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david.clarksclassicfl... |
Shakespeare Russell |
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I have my grandfather's Shakespeare Russell No. 1889. I think it's 40's era, maybe. Does anyone know its capacity, etc? It's green and is right
hand wind. It weighs about 7 ounces according to an inexpensive kitchen scale.
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bulldog1935 |
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Shakespeare always did things the hard way.
I know they used the Russell moniker on a variation of the AuSable - is this the reel?
1951 Wards catalog - note "new" in copy
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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02/24/09 08:54:59.
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bulldog1935 |
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Otherwise, it's going to be this reel - you may check back through the other Russell threads and the Heddon Little Rivers thread for examples
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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david.clarksclassicfl... |
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Thanks Bulldog. Mine looks like the top (first) photo. One difference is the look of the frame by the arm. In the reel in your photo there are about ten outer
circles and an inner ring of circles surrounding the arm. Mine has three large ovals with three (total) small triangular shapes between the ovals. Otherwise it
looks the same. Same arm, shape and location of screw heads, guide mounting etc. Sorry, I don't yet know reel nomenclature at all. Another piece of
information I found on the reel is that it is "model GE". From what I can tell on the Shakespeare Fishing website, the GE may indicate the year of
manufacture. If so then GE means 1946.
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bulldog1935 |
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not the year of manufacture, but the year of model change.
GE was a busy year. But I believe the reel was probably initially introduced under the Russell name, and eventually re-introduced as the AuSable.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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david.clarksclassicfl... |
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So that probably is it then? I don't know how to measure the reel's spool diameter, but the other measurements, pillar length and weight are about
right. I guess the right, left hand adjustment is made by shifting the location of the line guard. The arm turns both directions equally well. What does the
capacity convert to in modern lines (100 yards, size G line)? What do "single action" and "dual end bearings" mean?
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bulldog1935 |
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Looks like the spool size is about the same as on my Heddon Little Rivers, based on the Wards cat capacities
I was able to generously fits 75 yds backing and a WF5 on that reel, and I suspect it would take a DT5 still with 40 yds or so backing. As for as the rest, I have never had one of these reels in my hand, so I can't tell you too much about what's inside. Best guess, though - single action means not a multiplier, and twin bearing means there a bronze bushing at each frame plate, which pretty much has to be there in order to support the spool.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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02/24/09 11:12:24.
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Rockthief |
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David >>> fly line comparison: http://www.flypatternbook.net/flyline.htm
be careful because on some of these the reel is less sturdy than the Russell and parts may bend. |
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bulldog1935 |
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no.
that compares weight, and he needs to compare Volume. Silk fly lines are heavier than water and float because they have a hydrophobic coating and small enough diameter not to break the surface tension of the water - if they're floating, they're not getting wet - they are literally sitting on top of the water. Modern fly lines are lighter than water are buoyant in the water - they get wet. This also makes their volume Much greater than a silk fly line of the same weight.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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02/24/09 13:07:39.
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I just put the reel on the 40's era bamboo rod my dad gave to my daughter and it looks and balances great. I also think a 5 weight line on that rod will
work really well. Thanks Bulldog and Rocktheif!
Bulldog, the reel is quite clean generally, but I'm sure it hasn't seen use or fresh lubricant in years. Should I just give it a basic cleaning and new lubricant per your directions in the reel cleaning thread? |
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bulldog1935 |
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If it doesn't have badly hardened grease on it, I recommend bypassing the vinegar bath and cleaning it with Boeshield.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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I have the Russel with the triangular cutouts and it is basically the same as the Ausable, Empress, etc. They do seem like complicated reels for what they do
and aren't simple to take down.
The reels I have are only a right hand wind. The drag is a felt pad on a piece of spring metal. The felt pad slides back and forth on a slot. When the reel goes out the pad is pulled to the end of the spring and engages. When the reel turns the other way the felt is pushed back down the spring and lightens. There is no easy way to turn the drag spring around that I can tell, but maybe I am missing something since the ad lists it as left or right hand wind. That series looks really old fashioned to me and they came in all sorts of neat colors of clear lacquer over aluminum. I have blue, green, and red ones that make a colorful display. The knobs are different marbeled plastics. I was told that they were right behind the large Medalists in popularity for New England streamer trollers back in the day. |
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As far as I can tell, there's no way to convert that leaf spring tension from RHW to LHW. They aren't the greatest drag mechanisms, either, in my
opinion. There's a very narrow range between "not on" and "really big fish only."
A couple of my wide-spool Steelhead & Trout reels have that as a second drag mechanism on the reel, along with the screwdown pawl tension button. I have yet to hook a fish that would require me going to "plan B", as it were, and cranking down on the leaf spring brake. Although it would really be something if it ever happened. As already noted, these types of reels seem a little more prone to get out of alignment, leading to complications like difficult gear cranking and spool scrape. I just got mine out again after having it stored for a while, and it looks like I'll be needing to file the spool edge a few millimeters to keep it from hanging up on the frame rim. I like the look of them, they're stylish. But I wouldn't want to have to rely on mine to either protect light tippets, or to slow a fish in one of those critical circumstances where a split-second hesitation of the reel payout can lead to lost fish. The design just isn't smooth enough for me- not enough gear teeth, and prone to pick up grit somewhere in the workings. Although I can't say that I've done my utmost to smooth out pesky little bugs like that scraping spool...and I think that a reel design like this may have some advantages for trolling streamers and such. The Ausable was my Potomac River bass bug/zonker tosser last summer. It worked pretty smooth, but it's important to maintain them so they don't slip out of alignment. A single action crank wind isn't nearly as reliably smooth as a good multiplier, or a reel that uses a winding plate. Speaking of which: I've just recently picked up a Stuart- I think people call that design the "neuter Perfect"? because the spool bushing doesn't use ball bearings, like the original Hardy Perfect and its various mostly English imitators (and the Shakespeare Steelhead & Trout reels, the only American exception I know of.) But- what do you know?- the Stuart is a right nice, smooth running reel, for what it is. Very stripped down compared to the features on my 3 1/8" Hardy- no ball bearings, no adjustable button tension, a choice of "line guards" amounting to three 3/4" holes drilled in the lower cross brace of the aluminum frame, and a single pawl tooth that has its gear tension provided basically by a single well-balanced strip of spring steel- without any elaborate bends or radial curves- bracing and backing the broad end of the pawl with a nice, easy amount of elastic tension to keep the pawl ticking along, engaged to the spool gear. And how wonderfully well it works! I'm not sure whether my reel is new, or whether they always stay in this condition, but as it is, the pawl tooth is perfectly balanced between LHW and RHW. Either direction that this Stuart is reeled, it feels to me as if it's just a bit easier on retrieve than on payout- and the drag tension, one position though it may be, is set just right for the usual trout tactics and the usual run of tippets and fish. Nothing fancy or finicky...it just gets the basics right. Smooth, easy winding, no sticking, no spool wobble, nice trout size, lightweight...
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02/25/09 20:51:36.
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david.clarksclassicfl... |
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I found someone through Shakespeare who may have some additional information on the Russell. It will be interesting to learn about reversing the reel or not
and what he may have to say regarding some of these other issues.
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bulldog1935 |
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Col. Milt Lorens? he is swimjig on ORCA:
http://orcaonline.org/v-web/bulletin/bb/
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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david.clarksclassicfl... |
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Randy Pavlack. He's in Ohio and a member of NFLCC and ORCA.
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Randy says he does not believe the reel is reversible.
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