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        <![CDATA[ Has anyone out there fished with the orvis sink tip system ( the one I have has two 5 foot sink tip sections with loops at each end---a class 3 &amp; 4)---if
you have, what sort of leaders did you use with it and will this system work on streams using wet flies ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
			<link>http://fiberglassflyrodders.info/reply/79044/t/fishing-a-sink-tip-system.html#reply-79044</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Yup! I fish the Salmon river almost all year round . I don&#39;t do the real cold weather, &amp; I really enjoy my 14 ft GL3 8/9 wt. spey rod . ]]></description>

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			<link>http://fiberglassflyrodders.info/reply/79040/t/fishing-a-sink-tip-system.html#reply-79040</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ ...up here in NY where we fish for salmon and steelies on great lake tribs, we use sink tips with 7 to 10 ft fluro leaders to swing spey flies... long rods
help... and if you are so inclined, a spey or switch rod is the sweetest way to go... if you don&#39;t have a sink tip line, simply buy some sinking leaders as
they work just fine... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I respect a man that don&#39;t pussyfoot around .
<br> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Flickfly,
<br>
OK, I cheat even better than that, have a bunch of split-shot in my bag........
<br>
Keith ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I take the easy way out . I keep a small stockpile of different length &amp; densities of Airflow tapered tungston leaders on hand . 
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve tried the Orvis leaded loop sink-tip system and I agree with majicwrench -- it casts like crap. It hinges as the cast unwinds and hits the water like
a bag of rocks. I much prefer a true sink-tip line like the Teeny T130 or 200. And 4 to 5-foot leaders are all you need with those lines. I think it&#39;s
worth the investment, especially if you fish in early season when the rivers are high and fast. They also last a long time. I bought my Teeny T200 in 2004 and
I&#39;m still using it.
<br>
<br>
My streamer rod is an old LL Bean Double L 9&#39;, 6-weight, made by Loomis. I use glass for small stream work.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:23:19 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with majicwrench, as far as casting the thing, open loops and a what ever it takes attitude. It isn&#39;t going to be dry fly pretty. All the rods I
use for casting sink tips or sinking lines are 8.5&#39; to 9&#39;,  6 to 10wt rods. Respectfully rvreclus
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:23:07 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Length, I am always using 8 or 8.5 ft rods.
<br>
THose tips are heavy, and like I said above, cast like crap anyway, so I wouldn&#39;t worry too much about what wt line the rod was rated for, although a 7wt
rod is ALWAYS a good idea as far as I am concerned.
<br>
Keith ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have two other questions: 1) what length rod are most of you using and 2) in some articles it talks about dropping down one line size with a sinking tip 
since these tips where made for a 6 wt. should I go to a 7 wt rod ? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">majicwrench wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I&#39;ve got a pair of those Orvis sink tips around somewhere, and have used em in the past. As you can imagine, they cast like crap for the most part, but
  if you are in a situation and you HAVE to get d0wn, they will get it done.
  <br>
  Yup, just use some sort of short leader, no need to get fancy.
  <br>
  Keith
</blockquote>I bought a couple of them because I thought they might come in handy for lake fishing.  With the loops on the latest floating lines it would be
easy to remove the leader on a floating line and hook up a sinking leader.  If nothing was hatching on the lake you could switch quickly from fishing dry flies
on the surface to fishing nymphs, streamers, or emergers subsurface.  I usually troll a subsurface fly when I move around the lake.  That doesn&#39;t really
involve much casting so a sinking leader would work great for that application.
<br>
<br>
In the picture showing my... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: fishing a sink tip system  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Used to make essentially the same thing using sections of level sinking fly line. A five level section looped to 6 WF, a 6 level section looped to a 7 and so
on. Pretty handy where ease of carry--either on a stream or on a trip--is important. Never used them as much as I thought I would, though. They don&#39;t cast
as gracefully as a regular sink-tip line, but versatility and convenience may compensate for that. Ideally, I found I still prefer sinktip lines. Two or three
sink rates and two or three tip lengths in the most commonly used line weights cover just about anything. So about a half-dozen sink tip lines on reels or
extra spools offers advantages unless space/carry is at a premium. The short tip lines (or short looped on sections) are very handy where a fast current
parallels much slower water--perfect for hanging a fly down through the seam where fast and slow meet. An 8 to 10 foot tip length is a good all-around length
on standard sinktip line. If you use the advanced... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:55:28 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve got a pair of those Orvis sink tips around somewhere, and have used em in the past. As you can imagine, they cast like crap for the most part, but if
you are in a situation and you HAVE to get d0wn, they will get it done.
<br>
Yup, just use some sort of short leader, no need to get fancy.
<br>
Keith ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ midmofly,
<br>
Bulldog has touched on my cardinal rule for leaders. Keep them short when fishing with subsurface tips or lines. I fish all types of lines and tips, from
intermediate to T14 or lead core. The longest leader I use is a 7&#39;, for the intermediate, to as short as 3.5&#39; for the T14 and lead core. All of this is
to make sure my line, leader, and fly are as straight a connection as can be. Respectfully rvreclus
<br>
<br>
I tie all my leaders using Maxima (I don&#39;t see much of Mason, but have used Suffix material and like it) so customizing them to suit my needs is no
problem.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:28:18 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I fish Teeny BS100 and T-130 with wet flies.
<br>
You always want a short leader with sinking lines - 5 to 6&#39; total to the fly.
<br>
I really like Teeny&#39;s 4&#39; tapered leaders, zap-spliced to the line, and add short fluorocarbon tippet.
<br>
You could also easily build you own tapered leader with 3 sections of Mason. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Has anyone out there fished with the orvis sink tip system ( the one I have has two 5 foot sink tip sections with loops at each end---a class 3 &amp; 4)---if
you have, what sort of leaders did you use with it and will this system work on streams using wet flies ]]></description>

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